we don't want these weapons to be used against an american aircraft carrier, you know, or a port or a subway five years from now. >> this is another thing i'm curious about. it seems like it's reaching a critical mass in the united states, the move to arm and help the rebels in some way. i could be wrong, but it feels we're hearing more and more about it. i still don't understand because we go in and we intervene in libya. and we weren't able to procure weapons there. now the weapons are being used in gaza and now apparently being used in syria. so if we intervene, does it do more good than harm? >> i think it's a very complicated situation. if we don't know whom we are intervening for, i do think there's a potential for consequences we don't understand. what's going on in syria is -- at one level, it's a very simple morality play, which is assad and his regime are awful, brutal dictators. they have been oppressing their people. on another level, it's complicated. there are a number of people against the government who are also bad guys. there are a lot of people supporting the govern